#GregChats Sauna Stories

00:00Hi everyone, it's Greg Owen from olprepnow.co.uk and I was going to write a blog this week about uh some super sex I had in a sauna. I happened to share the story um little bits of it on Twitter which and Facebook and uh it seemed to get quite a lot of attention and quite a lot of of of queries. Um first of all, I'll say I have never gone to a gay sauna or a sex party before. No, that's not the I've been to plenty of gay honest and plenty of sex parties, but never sober. So, it it was kind of quite a random turn of events that I ended up um in I guess on a last Saturday night uh unaware, so unprepared, which means I hadn't [Applause] [Music] dedicated, I hadn't trimmed, I had I just didn't expect to be there. And I personally I'm not feeling kind of too hot at the minute as in I haven't been to the gym in a while and I just don't

01:00feel like I'm in kind of the best shape that I've been in. So I was a little bit insecure and and not so comfortable about about turning up to the sauna. And obviously with everything that's happening and the prep scene at the minute as well, there's quite a lot of attention on that and I maybe wasn't so much looking forward to anyone tapping me on the shoulder and asking me about prep and my HIV stayed in a busy sauna. So I I had anxiety. So, um, I went to the sauna and, uh, I thought, okay, well, I'm going to be here for a few hours and let me just have some space, some downtime first. So, I went and I sat in, uh, a cubicle on my own for like 10 minutes and thought, you know what, this is absolutely ridiculous. If I'm here and I'm in this situation, I may as well just try to kind of unwind and enjoy myself a little bit. I then also thought, well, I've never been in this situation sober before, so let's actually really be fully aware of what's happening around me. And some things were really lovely actually, and some things were slightly concerning. So, the

02:00first guy I had sex with, I kind of spotted straight away. He wasn't particularly model good-looking, but he was really handsome and something very, very sexy about him. So, uh, we ended up in a cubicle and we were having sex. I could actually taste somebody else's [ __ ] on his chin, which is kind of a little bit naughty, but kind of really sexy. Um, I don't know why I was drawn to this guy, but um, after I came, I hadn't had sex in like 2 months at this point, and so I was a very uh, enthusiastic uh, finisher, should we say. Um, so it was just oral, but then I came in uh, then I I actually came in my own eye, which happens quite a lot these days. Um, it was strange, but I came in my own eye, so I couldn't hang around for the small chat afterwards. So, I said to the guy, I'm going to go for a shower, and I need to get the comb out of my eye. And he was like, "Okay, cool." Um, and then he came and checked up on me, and he was like, "Oh, how was your eye?" And I said, "Which one?" And then he said, "Did you put cream in your eye?" And I was like, "Yes, just Okay, right. Here

03:00we go." So, it's actually quite funny. So, we were we had a bit of a laugh and a joke. So, it was nice to kind of interact with a person and not just with with a a sexual a sexual body. he was an actual person and I liked his spark. Um, so that was the first guy. Then there were another couple of little interactions with a few other guys. And then uh I kind of had had enough. I was tired. I' like how many times did I come at this point? I think one once or twice. Can't remember. I needed to chill out. So I went to the the chill out area in the sauna where everyone just sort of it's like a big mass bed and everyone was sort of there. Uh oh no, sorry. Before I went there, I went in the dark room and there was quite a lot of oral going on there, which is but then it's dark and that freaks me out a little bit. So, I didn't know what I was kind of I was like too sober for that. Um, so then I went for a chill out and then this gorgeous kind of like Spanishy looking guy with beard and just beautiful, beautiful, beautiful guy came and sat next to me and sort of like he was very polite and very like well-mannered, not too intense. And and

04:00I said, "Well, man, we didn't speak, but his his energy was his energy was not so assertive, which I I I like a bit of swag and some balls, but I don't like aggressive h cruising." So, he came in, kind of smiled, and then came and joined me on the bed. And then he just kind of had the most kind of really kind of intense kind of passionate sex with him. Um, and you could tell this guy had obviously been in one or at least a couple of long-term relationships because the kind of sex people have when they're used to having sex with one person, you kind of learn a few tricks. And not even tricks, it's just you learn how to interact, I think, with people rather than just having a series of one one occasion shags. I think when you actually spend some time with a person and you start to try and understand them, a boyfriend or boyfriends or partners, then the way you have sex, I think in my experience, the way I had sex changed. And I had been in a seven-year relationship, um, which finished 3 years ago. And so I could just tell by the dynamic and the energy

05:00of the sex that we were having that he'd been in a long-term relationship at some point. Um, and it almost felt like a very familiar sex. So anyway, he sat on my dick and rode me. And uh then actually he was the first person I've had condominous sex with that has not known me. So all the sex I've had to date has been with people who have known me on Facebook or have known before and who have obviously known because it's very public and visible. They they've known my HIV status, my undetectable HIV positive status. So this guy sort of just sat on my dick in the middle of a chill out area and I was like I know whether he's positive or negative and no HIV risk to him but it was the first time that I was probably going to have to disclose to someone who didn't know and the way it happened was in a room full of people in a sauna. So it was kind of like well now is not the time to sort of tap them one the shoulder and say oh by the way h can I just tell you I'm HIV positive. So it was a a bit of a

06:00weird thing for me. Um, but really good sex. And then he just sort of I was bottom dominated again. I guess he sort of went about and was really really good. And then I came in him and he kind of bounced up and ran out to the shower to obviously well I presume get rid of my [ __ ] from his ass and to freshen up. And then he came back into the chill out area. I was just sort of sat there and he came back in and he sat opposite me and I remember looking at him and thinking, "Oh god, I wish you had have just sort of came back here and like there was that sort of the rosy glow that like the after effect that I wanted to weird in a sauna. I wanted to cut off the guy. It was very bizarre." Um, so and here's the Okay, now we're getting into the bit that pissed me off. So I felt obliged. I mean I didn't feel any ownership to him or there was no you know there was he had no onward responsibility towards me to come and cuddle me or make sure I was okay or whatever whatever it wasn't that but I was watching him he was right opposite me and this pissed me off not because I

07:00had good sex with a guy but because he was a person who was having a little sleep and this one guy systematically went round the sauna again and again and again and he was waiting for the people who were either going asleep or passing out to start forcing himself on those people. And this guy, he I think he had like a few drinks. He wasn't high, I don't think. Or obviously not cuz he was dozing. And so I think he maybe had a few drinks. He'd been out all night and he was just literally needed a little nap. But I could see these guys consistently keep coming around systematically waiting for the one that was passing out. And I thought, wow, if he was on G, he could quite likely waken up and have loads in his ass or have been have been had sex to or rape is another another way. I don't really like to use the word rape, but he would have been sexually interacted with without his knowledge or permission. So, I could see he was tired and I thought, you know what? [ __ ] this. This is pissing me off. So, I went over and I lay next to him cuz I just thought if you want to sleep,

08:00I'll like lie next to you and make sure nobody touches you for the next hour or two cuz I don't really want to have sex again just yet. Um, and then I did he I did that and I think he was aware it was me. And then the next thing we did end up cuddling and spooning and stuff which was I am aware was very bizarre for a gay son. Um, but that in itself like I had to he was lying on top of me asleep and this guy just came over. Admittedly, he put a condom on and then he went to [ __ ] this guy cuz his ass was in the air. And I'm like, I couldn't believe in London in 2016 how far we've come as a community a guy is affectionately lying on top of me, okay, in a towel, but somebody else comes and tries to [ __ ] him when he's asleep on top of me. I can't believe I actually had to stop and say, "The guy's asleep and I saw him turn you down half an hour ago." I'm pretty sure he doesn't want you to [ __ ] him when he doesn't know. I actually had to have that conversation. That is totally [ __ ]

09:00not acceptable. So anyway, the guy kind of got in a bit of an arc and then he left. And this then seemed to create a little bit of awareness from the like the guys around us and then I started getting attitude from certain people in the sauna because I didn't let someone [ __ ] a guy who was asleep. Like there's a really there's a [ __ ] problem there if our community behaves like that. I'm sorry. I don't want to get ranty. There is a problem there. That's kind of um I had sex with the guy again. He came around and he was really sweet and then he actually came in me. So he he considering I hadn't douched, he was very lucky because I'm very funny about mess. So the fact that I even let him [ __ ] me and he was really good and he came with me. So, it was like kind of it was nice nice sex and it was weird for me to have not done the HIV exposure even though I know I'm not infectious or a risk to anyone. It was just slightly bizarre for me. Um, but what I did notice, one other thing I want to say is when I was proper buff

10:00and six-pack and ripped and kind of considered like gym boy or buff or up my own arms or hotter than I consider myself to be at the minute. The amount of attitude I got from other people who instantly took a dislike to me for that, that pissed me off. Now, in hindsight, I can see it pissed me off and I wasn't aware because I sort of have a bit of a beer belly at the minute. ahead and trimmed. I'm not looking too hot to be honest. I'm exhausted. The prep battle has been pretty intense and I'm not feeling I'm not looking for compliments, by the way. I'm just saying I'm not feeling too swag at the minute. And I actually noticed that I don't know whether it's because I was a little bit more introvert or maybe not as I don't know outgoing that maybe it was maybe it was my energy and not my physic my physical body. But I noticed I got less attitude when I was a little bit out of shape. I got much more attention from other normal guys. So I prefer I don't

11:00like the big kind of I I personally don't like it. I just like normal guys. And I got more attention from those guys. And actually a fair amount of attention still from the the gym buddies. But some and I can see how it works both ways cuz some of the gym boys, the proper beautiful body gym boys kind of looked at me with like kind of a little bit of contempt and disgust that I shouldn't be well maybe I don't know there's that dynamic. I felt more comfortable and I got less shade in the sauna from being a little bit less fit which was nice for me because I'd given myself a hard time about it and I thought well actually you know what most of it is in my head and I think our own selfworth I think we it's only natural and human but I think a lot of gay men's selfworth they they take from other people they wait for it to be allocated to them where I think you know what you're probably all right I think if we started to own it a little bit more and each of us own our own selfworth rather than wait to be validated by somebody

12:00else will be a much healthier thing. And I think for other people like if you're aware of that maybe just try and be a little bit kinder. So to kind of Yeah. Anyway, that's it. We'll end with the kindness. Just try to be a little bit kinder. Don't be a [ __ ] Don't [ __ ] people when they're asleep or passed out. It's just really off key. I think that's it. Sex stories from Greg. Bye.

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